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Is owner really delinquent or did HOA not collect assessment on time?

  
  
  
  
  

Anyone have any advise or help with the following issue?: On 08/17/11, received a letter from an attorney's office representing our HOA, that we owed $436.02 in unpaid assessments. Then with attorney's fee, copying fee, collection fee, amounted to $747.18. Looking at my bank records, it was confirmed that each month had been paid. Two months had been knowingly paid late, but I had also paid the late fee that it requires. Our association fees are due by the 15th of each month and I was told by the property manager's office that if the dues were turned into the office on the 15th, they would not be considered late.

When we asked for a breakdown of what they claimed we owe, we discovered several possibilities March 2011's payment was mailed out on 03/08, and they are claiming they received it late, and had assessed late fees. April, and July had been turned into the office on the 15th, yet they listed those as being paid late and charging late fees. Never did we receive any correspondence stating we owed any late fees. Until now, we have received no communication from the association.

Their collection procedures state the following: 1.) 1-month late - reminder notice mailed to the address listed on your association records - no correspondence ever received. 2.)2-months delinquent - 10-day pre-lien letter sent by mail and also sent certified mail, never received 3.) If a response is not received within 15 days after the 10-day pre-lien letter has been sent, we will proceed to look up the address and name in property appraisers website to see if there is an alternate address - if so, we change the address and resend 10 day pre-lien letter - if not - we print the screen showing address is the same and forward it to the attorney for lien. Never received 4.) Attorney will send demand letter with a claim of lien to homeowner giving 30 days to pay - if no response they will contact Property Manager to ask for board approval to foreclose. - this is the step we have come to without any of the previous steps happening.

Important notes: The property is a rental, and the address of the owner differs and was communicated to the property management office on Dec. 2010. The property is co-owned by two people. Furthermore, if they did complete step 3, the owner's name does link to another property address which is the same address we had provided them. All in all - no correspondence had ever been received from the property manager until the attorney letter.

Comments

Can the prop mgr show you proof that the past due notices were mailed to you? Is there a copy of the certified letter receipt? Were the letters mailed to your current address or to the the property address? Did you notify the assn by mail of your current address? Do you have a copy of the letter? Did you obtain a receipt for the 2 months you paid on the 15th at the prop mgmt ofc? Did the other owner of the prop receive any of the notices? 
 
IMO, what this all boils down to is which party has proof of their actions? This case may only be resolved in a court of law, unless your state has an agncy which oversees HOA disputes. You should pay the assessment and late fee to prevent the HOA from starting foreclosure proceedings. Then take them to court, if you think it's worth the extra money which will be alot more than the $300+ in attorney and late fees.
Posted @ Monday, August 22, 2011 9:44 AM by mary
As a renter the board has no oboligation to involvre you in this situation. The unit owner is the responsible party-not you. On the other hand I do not know why the late norice was sent to you and not to the unit owner. Quite a mixed up situation. But ultimately your unit owner is the financially responsible party.
Posted @ Monday, August 22, 2011 1:50 PM by Scott
Come on, straighten out your stuff and stop living on the edge of deadbeat town by waiting until the last minute to pay -or incurring late fees. Stuff like that is always a pain. Go to the Board meeting with all your info and put forth a good faith effort to straighten all this stuff out and don't get bullied into paying what you figure you don't reasonably owe.
Posted @ Monday, August 22, 2011 1:53 PM by george cameron
I agree, stop living on the edge and pay your HOA fees before the very last day. Are you like this with your other bills?..last minute. Your explanation reflects someone trying to a way out after their risky last minute methods didn't work. Rental or not, its your responsibility to get the right addresses to the mgmt company
Posted @ Monday, August 22, 2011 2:39 PM by Chuck McEvoy
You don't say whether you are an owner or a renter. I can't imagine why an association would deal with you legally. The association's only legal relationship is with the owner(s) of the unit. If you are a renter why are you paying the association and not the owners? Ask the association bookkeeper for a print out of your account ledger that goes back to the last time you were completely current. From this document you will be able to see if one or more or your payments were not received at all. If this is the case, provide proof of payment to the attorney and ask for a waiver to the liens and fines. To protect yourself in the future, set up EFT payments that can be pulled regularly each month. It is much easier that way.
Posted @ Monday, August 22, 2011 2:59 PM by Renee
I am looking to buy a condo. The fee dilinquecies are at 31 %. Most mortgage companies require 15%. If I can get an exception, is it dangerous to buy a property in this association? Thanks
Posted @ Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:03 AM by Ron
Pay your condo fees on the 1st and the problem goes away.
Posted @ Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:13 AM by Cheryll
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