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Property manager steals association election from condo board

  
  
  
  
  

I live in New Jersey. We had an election and the Property Management Company, who we are trying to get out, ran the whole thing. He would not let us vote in person there were 40 people there and he said it was a secret ballot. He took a bunch and put them on the side. He recounted them and he had this paralegal there who did not know half the questions we asked. One was where are our minutes, she said because there was no quorum we don't need them. Needless to say I won by one vote it was more than that his ballot was so confusing that half the people voted wrong. I was on both sides of the ballot for secretary and treasure, he said that can't be. May I add that the board only consists of President, Secretary and Treasurer? He ran the whole show and he is the Property Management Company. The only reason why he was nervous is he wants the secretary to remain another 5 years. She is also working for him in another business he has. We do not get audited reports each year. He has his own contractors come in who are not bonded. The secretary gives him the checks to distribute. Then we see all the workers hanging around his condo (he lives here and runs his business here) I have a funny feeling since no one contacted me he is going to somehow get me the newly elected person off the board. There will be a revolution. Help Posted @ Friday, October 21, 2011 8:01 AM by Phyllis

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The problem is with your Board members, not your managing agent, in that the Board is responsible for governing the association, but in this case it appears that they gave their power over to the managing agent. The Board is the one that is legally to be making decisions and the managing agent, who is nothing more than a mid-level employee is to be following out the Board's directives. Get your Board to stand up. I say that knowing that getting our Board to do so has not been possible, so I have sued them for negligence and included failure to manage the managing agent in that suit. Good luck to you and your association.
Posted @ Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:54 AM by Lynn
Do you have access to files, the management contract, etc? 
 
Board meeting minutes? 
 
How are the accounts held, Checking and reserves, who are the signers authorized to sign checks, only the Secretary?, who is the Treasurer? What are the state laws stating what the Board responsibilities. Is there an annual report and budget? 
 
Posted @ Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:58 AM by Richard
Lyn is right on! I wonder why one would hire a person who is a member of the condo association to be the property manager. Seems a bit of a conflict of interest. Phyllis you better take care of this immediately and get a new property manager....You are the board...you have the power!
Posted @ Thursday, December 29, 2011 9:12 AM by Ruth O'Loughlin
Lynn (the first to comment) has pretty much told it like it is/or how it should be. 
 
There are plenty of management companies in NJ of which our firm is one. If the association is not happy with how it is treated etc., especially if you feel that something is "wrong", change managers. CAI-NJ can easily provide you with a list of firms with CMCA's and PCAM'swho have been properly trained to meet the needs of HOA's and condominium associations. 
 
While it is not my intent to use this forum to solicit business, I love what I do, and I am more than happy to "educate" your board as to perhaps what they should be looking for in a property management company.  
 
Best of luck. 
 
Posted @ Thursday, December 29, 2011 9:23 AM by Richard Blenden
Phyllis you've got your big toe in the door, at least! You're on the board and you need to stay there. Document everything. Insist upon being in the loop on all decisions, because the Board is the legal governing body of a condominium association. Sounds like the controllers will try to exclude you. One thing that strikes me right off is that, generally, businesses cannot operate on condo property - assuming the condo is a residential one and not a commercial condominium. One of our Rules prohibits commercial activity. generally, residential condominium are built on land that's zoned for residential use only- and that's why the condo docs prohibit commercial activity. So, you may want to check with you town zoning enforcement officer (in our town, the Town Planner is also the Zoning Enforcement Officer). If your boy is violating town zoning regulations, that will help your cause tremendously. You also need legal help I think, Phyllis. Maybe you have a lawyer who resides there who can help? I'm a lawyer, and that's how I got involved - via a specific issue. Finally, the following words are said all the time on this blog and they are a must-do: study your condo docs as they relate to the issues you face! If you have questions maybe you can pose them to the blog. You can email me at george.cameron @ymail.com . Learn whether commercial activity is violating the rules (or any provision in the docs); learn about the powers and duties of the board; learn how to remove directors and officers; learn about meetings and quorums; learn how to adopt new rules and amend the bylaws; also checking state statutes is advised, if stuff in your docs seems "not right" or confusing. Look at the beginning of your declaration to see what exact state law (chapter or whatever) your condominium was formed under. I checked NJ statutes, and it looks like NJ condo law is at Title 46. Because you ran for director and won, you are truly in an important slot. I hope your supporters will stick closely with you and help you as you move forward to straighten out the problems. One last thing, in CT I don't believe we have a yearly audit requirement, but the association must have a yearly budget, and owners may request audits, I believe. One other thing, I'm assuming that your period of declarant control is over, correct?
Posted @ Thursday, December 29, 2011 9:47 AM by George Cameron, Farmington, CT
The New Jersey Condominium Act xontains specific steps that a condominium Association musrt follow in their annual election of Board Members. Your Board can be severly criticized for not following the law in your state. Your property manager,if he has had proper training in his field, would be intimately familiar with the NJ Laws. As a property manager he has absolutely no role in managing the annual election.His action are cause for termination of your contract with that management company. A complaint to the state board who issued the license to that company is certainly in order. Completely unethical behavior
Posted @ Thursday, December 29, 2011 10:15 AM by Charles Adler
have you ever heard of an ATTORNEY?? I'd get one if I were you
Posted @ Thursday, December 29, 2011 1:48 PM by carol forest
This exact question was asked / answered on Oct 23. http://www.condoassociation.com/blog/tabid/19257/bid/70390/Property-manager-controls-election-process-at-condo-association.aspx
Posted @ Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:33 PM by JT
need some help. I live in Connecticut, 90 units. Our bylaws still say 25%for meetings. This has us confused: 
 
Voting at a Meeting. Section 47-252(b), as amended, now provides that a majority of the votes 
 
 
 
cast at a meeting is the decision of the unit owners. Either the Act or the declaration may require 
 
 
 
a higher percentage. However, this provision supersedes any higher requirement contained in the 
 
 
 
bylaws. 
 
Posted @ Friday, December 30, 2011 9:58 AM by Dizzy
JT is absolutely correct about the same exact question being posted on October 23, 2011. I see above that Phyllis posted this question on October 21, 2011. Why is the blog-master posting the question two months later for the second time? Is Phyllis still paying attention? Are you there, Phyllis? May we hear from the blog-master, please?
Posted @ Friday, December 30, 2011 10:29 AM by George Cameron, Farmington, CT
Re: Dizzy's post on Dec. 30, 2011 at 9:58 AM. I'm an CT attorney with a condo law practice. I've reviewed 47-252 (b) and I see that it says that a majority vote at a unit owners meeting is generally the decision of the association. When you mention 25%, are you referring to a quorum? If you want to contact me directly, please see my post, above, on Dec. 29, 2011 at 9:47 am.
Posted @ Friday, December 30, 2011 10:36 AM by George Cameron, Farmington, CT
Sorry, my mistake for re-posting.  
Stephen, CondoAssociation.com
Posted @ Friday, December 30, 2011 10:49 AM by Stephen Polinsky
Carol is right, definitely check with an attorney. Also, if applicable, see if you are able to obtain the records for the ballot.
Posted @ Friday, December 30, 2011 1:46 PM by Bethany
what if the board authorizes the the pm to run the election collect ballots etc.?
Posted @ Saturday, February 25, 2012 7:02 AM by joseph n.capawan
I am a president of an association in New Jersey. In our community the votes must be counted by 2 neutral homeowners. Voting is not secret and it seems law has been violated here. A president may think he runs an assoc. but in reality he acts at the discretion of the board. In any court of law here in New Jersey that vote would be voided.
Posted @ Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:30 AM by Mark Miksa
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