Have you reviewed your association's governing docuemnts to see if they identify with is common vs. owner responsibility? You also may want to find a copy of teh surevy for your home. See if the property emcompasses the grounds you refer to. If the grounds are part of your lot, and the documents are silent, this could very well be an owner responsibility to maintain. Suggest you look for these documents and request your association to provide you with chapter and verse of the provisions that require owners to be responsible for this task.
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The roots and trees are on common property. The branches are crossing the property line and hanging over my roof.
What state are you in?
#1 Read your bylaws and Master Deed to find where your ownership of the property begins and ends.
If you own the property the trees are on then its your responsibility. If its on common ground then its the associations responsibility. If its on limited common ground then its the associations responsibility. It seems the association is stating since the trees are hanging over your house then its your responsibility.
The fact that the're already threatening to put a lean on you can just be a scare tactic.
I am located in Florida.
Jill here is a link that might be of help to your situation.
You need to speak to a qualified real estate attorney and take your documents with you. Spending an hour with an attorney is more cost effective than trying to fight it by yourself. Without looking at your documents, it is difficult for anyone to advise you. I would also get a lot plan with a satellite photo (often available for a low cost from your county/municipality) that shows the trees and the property line. Pictures would help too.
If the trees are on common property, the Association most likely is responsible for them. That does not mean they HAVE to do anything. Most states have laws that state you may trim branches that hang over your property up to your property line. It is a fuzzy area to me that the association can require you to trim them, except in regards to making you maintain your home and lot.
In regards to the roots, well, the sewer lines are yours. Tree roots search out water. It is your responsibility. Bringing that up muddies the water and makes any argument you would make on the trimming responsibility vague and just brings in elements not related to this case, even though in your mind it is because you are mad about it.
If anything, for your own building maintenance, you should trim or have trim back the branches over your roof. It will prematurely age your roof.
~ (imo) All the more reason to 'reverse' this HOA invasion of our country. Homeowners were much happier before the HOA takeover of our lives. Before some opportunists discovered that they could have power and make money by spitting out unreasonable rules and regs within certain communities. Isn't it time to gather and fight back? Don't get me wrong, some rules serve good purpose but too many of them are too Totalitarian....
In this case, if they cared about the owners, they would make the landscaper (on payroll anyway) available to all the home owners at one time to take care of 'all' the overground trees within the whole developed property, because it's very costly for each homeowner to hire a tree timmer. Another plus to my suggestion is: All the overgrown trees will be done uniformly by the one company...making the job more cost-effective (cheaper)....
We have dare trees on a number of our townhouse fron lawns and the front lawns landscaping has been maintained by the association. They are responsible for the irrigation as well as maintaing the landscape trimming etc. It is in our CC&R's and By-laws. It also cover our water usage. The trees are also the responsibility of the association.
Thanks Everyone! I appreciate all your responses.
Wow! huge oaks and pines--you are so lucky. I'll trade with you.
Enjoy their beauty, their shade in summer (saving you A/C expense, their fragrance, the color of the pines against a blue sky, the sight of a full moon seen through their branches.
Spend the money, take care of your tress. If they are on your property they are yours. Bless yourself.
Yes, the trees are beautiful, however, they sit on community property and are not mine and will be VERY expensive to trim back.
Please keep us up to date on how this plays out. It sure sounds to me as though your Board is shifting their responsibility to the homeowners. In fact, if you are correct in saying that the trees are on community property then the Condo or HOA would be responsible for any damage to your personal property.
Which is cheaper? getting your own attorney or trimming the trees?
What about getting other owners together?
Boris & Charlie
If your By-Laws state that the front lawn landscaping is the resposibility of the association, of course the tree is their responsibility. But not in your back yard. That would be your own resposibility. It's in our By-Lays and the HOA can not get out of it.They have to trim it. The have to spray it. Your By-laws are a legal document.
One of our condo owners keeps cutting back the trees. We have a landscaper, tree trimmer. What is the law governing this individual? This is Broward County.
If the tree or a part of it is on your neighbor's property he can prune that part that extends of his property without your permission.,..
HOA definitely needs to take care of any and all tree service
no questions asked.
I think that they are responsible for anything that has to do with a tree service. I don't think there is much they can do to fight it or anything.
I'm glad that this is under the owner's responsibility. Getting my sewer line replaced is a very important part of the foundation. Nobody wants bathroom problems. http://www.joefreiexcavating.com/sewerline/
I can tell that I'm at least not alone in thinking that yes, the HOA should be taking care of the trees. It might be a different matter if you had planted it. Since that's not the case, it is squarely on their shoulders. Thiago |www.australtree.com.au
The HOA should be responsible, I would think. They should just hire a tree service to come and do the work so neither one of you has to worry about it. That seems like the easiest solution.
Lana Lynch | http://cartwrighttree.com/tree-trimming/
If it was a preexisting problem, I don't think that you should be responsible. Unless they told you about it before you moved in. It is a good idea to get them trimmed back though, if they are that overgrown.
I think it depends on the association. When I moved into a new place that already had overgrown trees, they didn't make me pay for it. It was nice. http://www.cvltreeservice.com
I would think that trees that are getting in the way on your property should be removed. Do the owners know about your dilemma? I would try talking to them to see what they can do.
Jayden Eden | http://matts-tree-service.com/
I would definitely make sure the trees aren't on your property. I would then check the bylaws yourself and make sure that it is your responsibility. If not, I would make the HOA absorb the cost to maintain the trees and insist that they maintain them since they are causing so much damage to your home.
Claudia Rosenburg | http://www.dariotreetrimming.com/Stump_Grinding_Yard_Cleanups_Sylmar_CA.html
I think they should be responsible for old trees. The trees are part of the property, and you buy everything on the property. I think it would definitely increase the value however, if they were to cut down the trees before selling it.
Edmond Vandergraff | http://www.charlestonstumpstompers.com/services/
If the trees are located on common property, it seems logical to take this one against the board. It just so happens that your house is the one in danger, but it could have been anyone. See if your board is willing to compromise on the cost, or take it on entirely. Good luck!
Jenn | http://www.vabeachtreeservice.com/Tree-Trimming-Virginia-Beach-VA.html
They should make the seller responsible for cutting down the trees. Cutting down trees can really be a lot of hard work. I don't know how they used to do it back in the pioneer days with just saws and axes. Just pulling up one stump alone with my truck took all day. I couldn't imagine clearing out an entire forest to build. http://www.thetreeguysoftexas.com/contacts.php
We have some old trees on our property that are causing a lot of problems. The roots have grown up, and are cracking the sidewalk. This is going to be a really difficult problem to fix, but hopefully the HOA will help us out. http://www.royaltrooter.com
I agree. The irrigation should be covered. Landscaping can be a luxury to have. I really think the irrigation is important.
It really depends on the regulations of your HOA. That is seriously what it all comes down to. I would go see what the various regulations are concerning it and then go from there. That's help out the most.
Jim Tracy | http://www.talltimberstreeservice.com/services/tree-shrub-removal
I think that the condo association should be in charge of cutting down old trees on the property. In our complex they are usually the ones that trim our trees every year, so I think they should also be responsible for hiring someone to cut down old ones. We had one that was completely dead, and was starting to be dangerous in our back yard. We were just waiting for the day that it would fall and destroy something. http://www.dariotreetrimming.com/Stump_Grinding_Yard_Cleanups_Sylmar_CA.html
I don't think that's fair at all. I had a tree in my yard that was starting to touch my house so they took care of it for me. I would just make sure you talk to HOA and make sure they pay for it. http://www.charlestonstumpstompers.com/services/
If I was responsible to care and pay for trees that weren't mine, I would not be happy. The HOA should understand that you did not put those trees in. It would make sense for them to responsible once the old tenant moved out. If there is no better option, I wouldn't hesitate removing the tree altogether. http://www.coastwidetreeservices.com.au
They planted those trees so they should take care of them. It isn't up to the people living in the condos to take care of a tree that they didn't even plant. It's the associations property so they need to call a tree service to get it trimmed or taken down. http://www.tripointtreeok.com/services
Trees are the property of the present owner. If they are on the owner's property they are his property whether or not he/she planted them.
In the same manner, the home is his/hers whether or not he/she built it.
This is pretty basic stuff.
I think you should pay for tree trimming. It's a service that they are giving you, but you could do it yourself if you don't want to pay for it. It's kind of a hassle, though. http://www.greenandgoldtreeremovals.com.au
Yes, they are responsible for old trees. These were not planted by the current owner and therefore is not their responsibility. In a windy area I would definitely require this. If the tree looks too old then the landlord should pay for the removal of the tree. http://www.seabreezepropertyservices.com/landscape-services/landscape-design-installation/
Wow, that is a really hard situation to deal with. I would be really upset. I think when it comes to landscaping, it should be the responsibility of the tenant. But if there was a problem before you even moved in, it should the owners responsibility. http://www.oliverslandscaping.com
Are the trees actually on your property or are they overhanging onto your property? If they are on your property I would think you would have to cover the costs. If not someone else should be taking care of that service. http://www.hitreetrimming.com/services
I think you are responsible for the trees, because you bought the property. I don't see how the trees would be responsible for the trees. You're going to need someone to do all the tree care. http://www.northernsuburbstrees.com.au
Well, I think that the owner is definitely responsible for those trees. You can't expect the HOA to do everything for you. If it is too much work though, you can hire a tree service to help you out. http://www.yarnelltreeohio.com/services
I love the planet. Try too transplant it. If it is damaging the pipes though, get a professional to pull it out. As far as I know, I think it is up to your board. http://smittystreeservice.net/
That is a good question. It really depends on where you live and who you talk to. I'd ask a professional. http://andersentree.com
It sounds like the HOA has made a mistake. Check your documents to see if the trees are on common property or not. If they're not your responsibility, the HOA should be maintaining them.
Jenn | http://www.a-1experttreeservice.net
I would imagine that this would be under the responsibility of the HOA. It could come down to your contract though. Just make sure you have help if your going to try to trim the trees. It's a lot easier and safer to hire a professional to do it for you. http://kctreecaresiteks.com/Services/
I think it would be great if the HOA was involved. If it is in a common area, I think it should be their responsibility. It makes sense in my mind. http://www.scottlanestreesrv.com
I would offer my ideas but I think think it'd be taken too well. My dad whenever we'd get angry would kick us out side with a hatchet and told us we couldn't come in until we had 'hacked out' our anger on a stump. This method worked surprisingly well as me and my brother fought A LOT. Other wise I would see if they would be willing to negotiate on getting the trees fixed. http://www.adelaidetreefellingservices.com.au/services
Unfortunately, there's not a lot you can do. The trees need to be serviced. Whether you or the HOA does it doesn't matter as long as it gets done. If you talk to the board, I'm sure they'll take up the excess cost.
I would assume that the owner is responsible for the trees. Especially because old trees can be responsible for a lot of damage. They can fall during storms, or their roots can interfere with the pipes underground. If there are any risks you should tell the owner immediately. Even then you may want to have a good tree removal service in mind, just in case. There's lots of good ones out there. I hope everything works out for you! http://mendozatreeservice.com/treeremoval.html
If the tree doesn't need to be replaced, then I don't think it will have too much affect on the situation. If it needs to be removed, I think it would be the responsibility of the owner. But if it's more of a preference, it should be done by the one who wants it gone. http://www.kingdomstreecare.net.au
That's strange that they are so into getting the trees trimmed all of a sudden. I wouldn't know what your rights are. I hope that there can be a good arrangement figured out.
Nora Moore | http://www.northshoretreeservices.com
Did your board change directors? It's possible that they're deciding to enforce laws they hadn't enforced previously. It's a pain for the current owners, but those trees sound like a hazard. They could easily damage buildings or power lines. Whether you or the HOa does it, they need to be removed.
I think that you need to express these concerns with the HOA. Although if there isn't anything in the bylaws about it, then they might be able to pin it on you to fix. In that case, I'd suggest getting a good company to come out and take care of it at a more affordable price. Good luck. http://www.jttree.com/Tree_Pruning_Los_Angeles_CA.html
If it was purchased that way, than yes. Unless stated in the contract, the owner should have full responsibility of property care. I would recommend a tree removal service. It will save you time and money! http://www.hodgsontreeservice.com/services.html
Are the trees on your property or the HOAs? It sounds like they're only just starting to enforce some needed maintenance policies. When it comes to trees, they can be dangerous when they;'re that big. You might need to get them removed completely if they're starting to cause problems with the power lines.
Those trees seem like a huge bother. I would hate to have to deal with them. I'm not sure if they can do that or not. You'll probably have to contact a lawyer if you want to fight it. I would just get rid of the trees all together. That way you won't have any other problems. http://www.coastwidetreeservices.com.au
If the trees are interfering with your power lines, they should probably be removed. That's something that the board should have been keeping an eye on for years. Trees are beautiful, but they can be dangerous when they grow in the wrong places. That's something to talk to your board about.
You definitely should fight this. These trees don't belong to you. It is the responsibility of the association to take care of these trees. You should fight it and put the association in a position to have o hire someone to trim the trees at their expense not yours. http://www.truecaretreeservice.com/services.html
I think that it is probably a good idea to get these trees taken care of, since they can become a problem if they get to be too big. However, since you have a new HOA owner, I don't think that it should make a difference. I would think that the association would be responsible if it says so in the bylaws. I would check to make sure with them, and see if there is a service that can come and take care of it, possibly a landscaping service that takes care of trees as well! http://nobletree.net/services/landscape-design/
That's a good question. I would like to believe that it's the HOA's responsibility. With that being said, I would talk to a tree removal service. I'm sure they'd be able to give you the information you need. http://brownstormservice.net/
I think that the new owner would definitely be responsible for old trees on the property. They can talk to to the condo association about it to see if they'll cover part of the cost. It would be really nice to have a company completely take care of your tree trimming for you. http://www.heritagetreecare.com.au/tree-trimming/
It sounds like the trees need to be taken care of-- possibly removed. It's one thing to have large trees in the yard, but it's another to have trees reaching into the power lines and wreaking havoc with the sidewalks. I'd recommend talking to some tree companies to see what your options are before you even get the HOA involved.
The first thing I would do is read your by-laws. At my CA, the trees and grass in the front yard belong to the CA while the ones in the back are mine. They actually do all the yard work in the front. I don't know why this is but it's pretty nice! http://www.farmerslandscape.com
They most likely are. Usually the HOA is responsible for any major landscaping jobs. We had an old tree on my property that the HOA took down last year. We actually didn't want to see it go but the HOA demanded it. http://www.newcastletreeandstumpremoval.com
I don't think that they would be responsible for new trees on the property. The condo association should hire someone to go out there and trim down those trees. That is a really rough responsibility to have to take care of for being just a new home owner. http://www.mcgintybros.com/treecare.htm
You should check what the local bylaws say about which property is the responsibility of who. Those trees could be your liability or the HOA's liability. This should be clearly stipulated in the bylaws and in the documentation of the condo. Whoever ends up being liable should get the trees removed as quickly as possible though. The last thing you want is a tree coming down on the condos. You think you have HOA problems now, wait until one of those trees come down. It's a really smart idea to get them taken care of professionally as soon as possible. http://franciscostrees.com
It sounds like these trees are too close to your building if they're starting to interfere with the power lines. Have a licensed tree company come and give you a cost estimate, then send that to the HOA. They can't make you pay for trees on community property, but those trees sound like they should be taken out. | http://www.melbournetreestumpremoval.com.au
It does sound like your association is at fault, but the trees do need to be trimmed. Left alone, they'll start to cause damage to your power lines and the roots can also interfere with the building. Talk to a tree company and get an estimate of the costs before going back to your board and talking about possible payments. | http://www.davestreesvcs.net
That is a really interesting question. Generally, I would think that it is the HOA's responsibility. They are charged with keeping the environment in tip top shape. So I would think that they are supposed to have the property in working order before a new tenant moves in. http://brownstormservice.net/
I think it doesn't really matter where the tree is planted. If it's your roof that has the branches over it you are going to have to pay tree service to cut them back a little. You can talk to the HOA first, to see if they will help pay for it. http://www.sylvestertreeservice.com
I think that the new HOA owner would be responsible for removing an old tree on the property. It can be really dangerous, so it is in their best interest to get it removed. My neighbor had a big branch fall on his car a couple of weeks ago. I think that it is completely worth it to cut down old trees before they cause damage to your house or to you. http://www.robertjefferiestreeservice.com/Tree-Removal-Everett-WA.html
I think that they would have had to make some kind of deal before buying the house. Once the sale is finalized, the HOA owner is in charge of all of the repairs and tree removals on the property. They can talk with the condo association to see if they can get some help. I would check the contract just to make sure though. http://www.treesafeqld.com.au/